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Master's degree

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Did she really get a Master degree? Or just a BA?

WikiProject class rating

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This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 02:08, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Zuckerberg

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Mark Zuckerberg's steady girlfriend is also named Priscilla Chan!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by SpeakFree (talk • contribs) 00:03, 21 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So she is Mark Zuckerberg's girlfriend?

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She look too old. 206.248.152.209 (talk) 09:15, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No she is not. There is more than one Priscilla Chan in the world. Mark Zuckerberg's gf is a third-year American medical student, not a Hong Kong pop singer. Get your facts straight. Melba1 (talk) 17:10, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 2 December 2015

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 15:17, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

– When I search Priscilla Chan, I do not means this singer. So that recommends to refer the disambiguation back. Zero00072 (talk) 07:53, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Neutral probably Mark Zuckerberg's wife is better known in America, but here on en.wp she's only a mention in her husband's article. Wheras in books the Cantopop singer is still more notable. If the move gathers support then move Priscilla Chan (disambiguation) over the baseline. User:Zero00072 are you going to help fix all the broken links if the move goes ahead? In ictu oculi (talk) 10:55, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • Reply Allthough she is only mention in her husband's article, many people will confuse that "Is she a singer?", absolute not I think. I do not want to introduce her as a singer as I am stupid again. So the disambiguation page is more clearly shows there are not only one. I will help fix the wrong link in my free. Zero00072 (talk) 13:33, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, not convinced but not opposing. In fact I would support (singer) being added even if Priscilla Chan primary redirects to the singer. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:00, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Only person here by that name with an article. Zuckerberg's wife is known only for being Zuckerberg's wife (i.e. WP:NOTINHERITED) and only has a couple of lines in his article. Better to put a hatnote from this article. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:40, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • Reply You may follow the rule of WP:INTHENEWS. We known her by newspapers. "Who is Priscilla Chan?". Zero00072 (talk) 13:53, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • Although there are no her own page now, someone will build one. Follow the rule WP:REDLINK. Zero00072 (talk) 14:17, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • Yes, but she probably isn't notable enough for an article in the first place. What has she done in her own right? See WP:INHERITED. Just being written about because you're the spouse of someone famous doesn't make you worthy of an article. In addition, (a) we do not disambiguate unless we need to at the time, and (b) she is no longer Priscilla Chan anyway! -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:34, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - I've created Priscilla Chan (philanthropist). With the recent announcement of Chan and Zuckerberg's huge charitable foundation, she's now definitely notable in her own right as a philanthropist, and better known than the singer. -Zanhe (talk) 19:57, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I mentioned this move request at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Priscilla Chan (philanthropist). 210.6.254.106 (talk) 04:04, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support having 'Priscilla Chan' as disambiguation page, as both names are relatively well known. Peco Wikau (talk) 21:47, 9 December 2015 (UTC).[reply]
  • Support now that Priscilla Chan (philanthropist) exists. Gap9551 (talk) 21:54, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - I have known the Hong Kong singer all my life, and I bought one of her albums (actually, a rerelease). Sad to say, she no longer surpasses the other Priscilla Chan mainly due to Westerners' perception of the HK culture and sole attention to Mark and his wife and Facebook. Still, both are equally prominent. --George Ho (talk) 04:32, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. The wife of Mark Z is notable per WP:GNG (as overwhelmingly confirmed at the recent AfD), and also at least as notable as the singer. Disambiguate is best.  — Amakuru (talk) 21:59, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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awful content

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seriously? we are going to add content related to her being upset about the death of her cat? Spacecowboy420 (talk) 12:09, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Recent title change

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Szqecs, may you please change the title back to Priscilla Chan (singer) and then start the RM on this please? The change needs discussion. Thanks. --George Ho (talk) 17:56, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No one is objecting. If you are, state you reasoning first. Szqecs (talk) 01:58, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Szqecs: As I said, it's contentious. It is not that I'm objecting. Some others are, like ones from Talk:Jasper Tsang, Talk:Anthony Wong (Hong Kong actor), Talk:Gary Fan, etc. The naming convention for Hong Kong personalities was discussed. Case-by-case is status quo. In this case, here are the sources:
Per WP:PARENDIS, let's use the previous title instead for now. If you wish, try the RM instead. --George Ho (talk) 03:16, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If case-by-case is the status quo, this particular case is not contentious because no one is objecting. We don't use RM unless it's controversial. Szqecs (talk) 04:16, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Just simply move it back, Szqecs. I'm close to requesting a revert at WP:RM/TR unless you are willing to change it back. --George Ho (talk) 04:20, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Also, almost no one was aware of the changes. Most readers surf to the other Priscilla Chan but probably are unaware of it. --George Ho (talk) 04:24, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Also, multiple sources, including official and independent ones, use "Priscilla Chan" rather than "Priscilla Chan Wai-han" as pointed out before. --George Ho (talk) 05:01, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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B-class

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A review was requested by User:Will629 at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography/Assessment#Requests. I have looked a the article and it seems to meet the criteria for the B-class; I'll update the assessment noticed accordingly. Interested editors may consider WP:GAN review next. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:24, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Unsuccessful. —Ganesha811 (talk) 13:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator: Will629 (talk · contribs) 17:36, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi! I'll be reviewing this article using the template below. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask them here. —Ganesha811 (talk) 19:54, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have a few things going on right now, but should be able to complete the first run-through of the review by Sunday evening. My apologies for the delay. —Ganesha811 (talk) 17:03, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please just take your time, actually I am quite busy too at the moment. Anyway, thank you very much for reviewing! Will629 (talk) 20:45, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Closing due to nominator non-response, without prejudice towards renomination. Thanks for your work on this article but it's not at the GA standard as of today, with no improvements made during the review. Please be sure to address the issues below if you renominate. —Ganesha811 (talk) 13:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.
  • There are consistent grammatical errors, run-on sentences, and confusing construction. A thorough scrub for these issues is required to meet GA status, perhaps with assistance from the WP:GUILD of copyeditors.
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
  • On source reliability, can you tell me a little more about these sources and why they are reliable/independent enough?
    • Localiiz
    • Universal Music Hong Kong UMWebzine
    • Sohu Entertainment
    • Wah Kiu Yat Po
    • 凸週刊
    • NetEase Entertainment
  • Can you add a English translation for titles/authors which are missing it, such as 漫遊八十年代——聽廣東歌的好日子?
  • Much of the article seems to be cited to her albums directly, awards ceremonies, or interviews with Chan. This is an issue as it may imply OR and a non-independent perspective.
2c. it contains no original research.
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.
  • Earwig picks up nothing egregious, hold for manual spot check.
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
  • Why is this sort of vague, generic detail included? As a teenager, Chan would often take part in extracurricular activities., When Chan was still a primary six student, she already participated in the annual garden party, in celebration of Queen Elizabeth II's birthday, at the Government House held by the Government of British Hong Kong on behalf of the Marymount Primary School, and even shook hands with Sir Murray MacLehose (麥理浩), the then Governor of Hong Kong, her father and her fans saw her off at the Kai Tak Airport, where a large number of media reporters were also present, (GPA 3.66/4.00), Besides her parents, Michael Au, who had already broken up with Chan around 1991, Au's wife, and Jacky Cheung attended Chan's graduation ceremony held in the Syracuse University's campus, The death of her beloved cat, Remington, also watched Chan's concert and the two took a photo together
  • In general, the number of mentions of performing concerts can be reduced; that is standard fare for a pop singer and most concerts are probably not individually important. Summarize these things with mentions like "toured extensively" or "held a small series of concerts" etc.
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
  • On first read through, this article appears to be written from a fan's point of view rather than a neutral, encyclopedic description. This is a common problem for articles about singers and other entertainers. The article reads like a list of awards won and charts topped, rather than any kind of objective description of her career and impact. There is a lot of extraneous detail that wouldn't interest someone who wasn't already a fan of hers.
  • While a few here and there (well-cited) might be acceptable, phrases like one of the all-time Cantopop classics, was a huge success that not only topped the charts and was awarded the "Most Popular Disco Song", Chan rebounded nicely, Chan's retro-styled stage presence, accompanied by varied, vintage outfits and hatwears also became one of her most iconic images throughout her singing career, the highly anticipated winner of the year's "Jade Solid Gold Best Ten Music Awards: Gold Award", one of her most classic performances that also featured the farewell theme,, the chart-topping hit, all became instant hits, she also criticised the general preference of Cantopop audience at that time, who she believed were only interested in admiring the artists' images but not in truly appreciating their music, etc. There are tons of these.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
7. Overall assessment.
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